In this black and white battle, I much prefer the Nokton with its contrast and sharpness. In the end, the choice of a lens is partly objective and partly subjective: and today’s Nokton should be better than yesterday’s Summicron in the same way that today’s Summicron (asph) should be technically/objectively better than today’s Nokton. 35mm is the common name of the 36x24mm film format or image sensor format. Voigtlander 35mm Color Skopar vs Nokton 35mm. EVEN you first wowed the photos from Voigtlander. It is extremely sharp and wonderfully pleasing rendering for both digital and film bodies. You see, very subjective and I am sure that the result can be totally different when I try this again. | P r o s o p h o s says: September 11, 2013 at 7:58 pm In the meantime, feel free to re-visit my report on another of my favourite lenses, the Voigtländer Nokton 40mm f/1.4. 1-2-1 Photography and Lighting Tuition also available. E-mount Voigtländer 10mm 5.6 Hyper Wide Heliar E Voigtlander 12mm 5.6 Ultra Wide Heliar E Voigtländer 15mm 4.5 Super Wide Heliar E Voigtlander 21mm F1.4 Nokton Voigtlander 21mm 3.5 Color-Skopar E Voigtländer 35mm 1.4 Nokton Classic E Voigtländer 40mm 1.2 Nokton E Voigtländer 50mm 1.2 Nokton E Voigtlander 50mm F2 APO-Lanthar Voigtlander 65 mm 2.0 … Continue reading Voigtlander … Actually, I got a little doubt viewing the thrid last photo (night shot with a bit of city scape), where the right hand side shot seems to show more coma than the left one. 35/1.4 goes inbetween. By the way Vincent, very nice images on your Instagram account which I recommend to all (and no artificially added vignetting it seems, which I greatly appreciated). Achtung: Although wonderful on film, this lens sucks on the M9 because its rear nodal point is too close for the sensor. I did consider but did not get 35f1.4 for reasons below and because I could not find one with decent price. The cause is often either the pressure on the shutter-release button (and the way one holds one camera) or the shutter itself…. The handle is one I make with my recently created brand Kamerakraft. But content like this is really great for photographers just getting into M-mount lenses and trying to decide how to best spend their money. This will be my main travel and street camera. Why? Nice “real life” comparison, Vincent. Thanks for the article. This week it is the very classical Voigtlander 35 Nokton 1.4 MC lens for Leica M mount, but do not worry! Perhaps I am too easy to please. The biggest difference being between f2.8-f4. I propose you to play a little game with me. Did you notice a big difference in image quality between the 2 versions? So I always recommend to keep it till you can, you won’t regret it. Thanks for sharing the test results. makes me want to use the lens in the same way again! I’ve used the lens on my digital Leica M240, Leica CL, Leica M9 and Leica film cameras like my Leica M2 and Leica M4-P. Coventry, UK studio based Model and Wedding Photographer offering both Medium Format Film and Digital Images. this is the hardest to find Voigtlander 35mm lens, sought after because of its very short focusing throw When I don’t need a fast lens the Voigtlander Color Skopar 35mm offers the best portable solution. In any case, at f5.6-8 both already resolve 42 mpix on A7r2 through most of the frame and thus any sharpness differences become irrelevant. But I'm kinda debating between 21mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar & this 35mm f/1.2 Nokton OR just the 21mm f/1.4 Nokton. Check prices. The Voigtlander 35mm 1.4 Nokton E “classic” was announced alongside the Voigtlander 40mm 1.2 Nokton Eand after a slight delay just hit the shelves (02/18). I might be wrong, but having used the two, I think the summicron is still the shorter one , If outstanding means blurred in the corners at f2 … yes indeed outstanding. The Leica Summicron has been highly appreciated and regarded as an excellent all round lens. 35mmc is a blog authored, edited and published by Hamish Gill featuring daily articles submitted by readers. Thanks Vincent for the work done. I’ve wanted one fo, I now have a grip and hood for my Makina 67. In my search for a small, fast 35, I purchased this lens up a couple of weeks ago. I have to believe my eyes. At f/1.4 the Nokton is the worst, but that was to be expected. I think your conclusions might be a bit fast. ), Voigtlander 21mm f4 Review (21mm Color Skopar)(+vs Zeiss 21mm Biogon). I am not saying the Summicron is bad, but the comparisons I did just showed to me that, maybe, higher price doesn’t always mean “better”.eval(ez_write_tag([[250,250],'35mmc_com-box-4','ezslot_6',182,'0','0'])); Now, that was the brain speaking, but the heart saying different things. Thanks for reading, and I hope I hadn’t caused to much trouble to you eval(ez_write_tag([[300,250],'35mmc_com-banner-1','ezslot_8',185,'0','0'])); Feel free to visit my instagram and Kamerakraft webpage if you like film Leicas or film scanning devices. See the links below for the flash and gear I use to light my portraits. And if I did, I wouldn’t do that on film anyway . I just sold my Nokton V1 last weekend because it produced inconsistent results at wider apertures (low sharpness, focus shift, and distortion). The 35 Skopar is an awesome little lens for travel.. if you like wide I highly recommend the 21 Skopar to pair up with it and then as you say a fast 50 (though for travel I usually go for the 50/2.5 Summarit due to the size (or the old 50/2.8 Elmar). (Then there are all the variations and vintage lenses still available!) ;o). I was split up between 35/2.5 and 35/1.4. About the Nokton 1.2 versions, this time I think it is totally apple versus oranges as these lenses are aspherical very complex (and large) lens formulas. So is one better than the other, both in terms of the quality of the outcome, and all the other reasons we might like to own gear, it’s all up to you and your preferences. Leitz and Zeiss lenses (the ones for Hasselblad) tended to be less contrasty than Japanese ones such as Nikon, Canon. I have the Voigtlander 35mm Color-Skopar f/2.5 and I don’t see myself selling it and upgrading to either of these two lenses, I just don’t have the disposable income to justify it. The basic Skopar is a 4 element Tessar type lens. While the Summicron is the smallest 35mm f2 I’ve ever seen, the Nokton is the smallest 35mm f/1.4 being mass produced. Great job! I’ve guessed the lenses correctly, but I guess I just knew what to expect from both lenses even if don’t own/have not tried either I’m a big fan of VC lenses and at some point was also confronted with a similar choice as you, i.e. But with the growing lot of mirror less cameras, there are a lot of possible uses for this lens via… The Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f/1.4 v2 is a “modern lens” sold for the first time in 2019 and has been made to improve some traits of its older brother, the Nokton v1. I have had 2 Ultrons before (F2 and 1.7). Like others, I also guessed that the crispier images on the right hand side just had to be the ‘cron, and I was surprised to see the opposite was true. You can read my 9 months with one camera one lens experience (Leica M240 + Voigtlander Color Skopar 35mm f2.5). In 10 photos, I have chosen the left side. So I sold the Leica Summicron 35mm v4 to purchase a Summilux ASPH pre-FLE. Yes, it is true! Voigtlander is really doing well. So with both lenses in my hands, I decided to make a comparison between the two. On digital you’d probably see ~0.5-1 stop difference between f2-f5.6 with the two in the centre (VC leading), and somewhat of a mixed bag outside of the central area. Voigtlander 35/1.2 V2 (chrome filter ring) along side the slightly larger 35/1.2 V1 . No one speaks about it loudly… I don’t want to buy a summicron to get f/2.0 with clinical performance but rather have relatively usable f/1.4 – unfortunately if the focus shift is not completly resolved I will stay with my current lens or go for Cron… It all runs down then to differences in color (VC being cooler and leica warmer), contrast (VC way more contrastier), bokeh (VC much smoother in most settings), handling and price (both are nice to handle, leica more expensive). I really appreciate the side by side shots and being clear in your subjective comparison. When I bought my first Leica M4 back in 2014, I decided to couple it with a Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f/1.4 S.C that I bought new (first time of my life I bought anything new). The problem with 35v4 is that it’s over-hyped and thus price is inflated too much. Regarding the sharpness, I did not notice any differences at equal apertures on film, and only slight on digital (on my A7 Nokton was sharper in the centre but more affected by thick filter stack and dropped faster in the corners if not re-focussed). The Nokton has got better out of focus rendition at all the apertures as compared to the Summicron and Color Skopar. This lens was crazy good and behaved as planned. Looking through your photos and guessing which lens was used was a lot of fun. Sample photos and more detail below. I b, MS-Optics 50mm f/1.0 - this is another commission, (SOLD) This Pentax MX is a commission sale. I don’t know if it is good or bad though. ), Leica M9 Review: 2020 Revisited + Sample Photos, Digital Leica CL Review: in 2020 + Sample Images. I did however eventually ( several years later) buy a second hand Voigtlander 35mm f1.2 (first version) from a friend, swapping it for a Voigtlander 40mm f1.4 which I owned plus some cash – which seemed a good deal for me as somehow I never really bonded with that lens either. Regarding fog, a Summicron from the 1990s having fog would be rather surprising unless one had kept it in a very damp basement in the tropics. It is, in my opinion, the best bang for the buck 35mm you can possibly find. ;o) Mine dates back from the early 1980s and does not show any fog either neither a 50 mm from the 1950s for that matter (and fog would not produced what can be seen in the background of the above-mentioned photograph). The name originates with the total width of the 135 film which was the primary medium of the format prior to the invention of the full frame digital SLR. All photographs and text appearing on 35mmc.com are the exclusive property of the named author (except where stated otherwise) and are protected by copyright. Do you need a super compact walkabout lens? For me it has a perfect combination of great unique image look (I couldn’t find any other lens with that special dreamy glow in some situations) and performance (build quality, smoothness, size). It looks like that the Nokton is a tad brighter that the Summicron at given f/stops. Anyway, although not scientifically rigorous, these comparisons are much more useful to us photographers than MTF curves are. This is a lens almost any M shooter can afford! Considering how similar 35 and 40 are, and the thread on fredmiranda regarding comparison of 35v4 vs Summicron-C I think it’s makes sense to share my findings on those two in context of your post. The problem with contrast is while images look sharper straight from the camera, the results show fewer nuances, especially in color. Price is another whole different story too . Point of view street photography with a Leica M2, with a Voigtlander Color Skopar 35mm 2.5, and ilford hp5 pushed to 1600. I would love to see a review in colour film. 2009-today, 52mm filters, 155g. Another detail lies in the fact that your examples could definitely have satisfied our visual curiosity had they been shot in a more systematic (and kinda “scientific”) way: camera on tripod (one blurred Summicron image (interior) definitely shows signs of camera shake). Wideangle prime lens | Leica M | BA288A. The Canon 35L is huge. Absolutely no fog whatsoever! In the end I kept the summicron because: 1) it’s really more like a 35 mm lens (I estimated mine is ~37 mm) and Nokton is almost 50 (45 or so, and I wanted ~35), so these are really two different lenses (well, this bit is irrelevant for lenses considered above). As perfect as you can dream of for a 35mm. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! I’m astounded. Bennybaha, you make a good point relative to…. It’s optical formula is similar to the one of the Summilux pre-aspherical, with a stop less and a shorter minimum focusing distance of 0.7m. But it also means to me that Leica classic lenses performances is not that particular under f4…, Historically, that summicron v4 has never been regarded as a super sharp lens anyway, but as a journalistic character lens that integrates Leica’s aesthetics, yes. I really, Back toward the end of the summer, I shot a roll t, This Pentax Q7 arrived today. Hey Matt, which 35mm lens would you recommend to take as the only one? The Nokton 35mm f1.2 ASPH by Voigtländer is to my knowledge the fastest 35mm lens available for full frame cameras. I bought all 3 of my Voigtlander 35mm lenses before most of my Leica lenses as they cost less. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. which focus shift was abnormal what annoyed me and I sold that lens, however IMHO its character was mindblowing. All the best, Thanks for the kind words Bruno, I appreciate , Very interesting, I picked the one on the right, gulp and it was the Nokton. I also owned both lenses at some point and ended up sticking with the Summicron (I’m shooting color film most of the time). Voigtlander 35mm f1.4 MC. Matt. Thanks LG, happy to be of some help. What makes Leica lenses good is they are pretty equal in many situations and lightning conditions. (Be reassured, no drills needed to install it ), Hi, Actually no, I absolutely love shooting with some very unsharp lenses. It has given me many hundreds of photos from all over the world. What has impressed me is the cost of the Voigtlander primes has not really changed at all since I bought mine and if anything the cost has gone up. But I can swear I did my best with each of these shots (and look again for the interior shot on the google drive files, this is not camerashake (I was sat for that shot) but most likely veiling of the summicron). In the centre it would be f2.8 or even 2.0 (on film anyway). But they sure are great! Nokishita spotted the Voigtlander Nokton 35mm f/1. It is less easy to make interesting portraits with a 35mm slow lens so I often relied on lighting to make the photos interesting for my taste. – Poland, View all posts by matthewosbornephotography, Voigtlander Color Skopar 35mm f2.5 review, Voigtlander Bessa T Review (Best Leica M6 Alternative? Hi, thanks for the kind words Basic image qualities are not that different. I guess this information will be truly helpful for those who are making those hard decisions. I absolutely loved it and ignored its flaws as it was all I could buy myself at that time. It is extremely compact and affordable. front row 35/2.5 C Color Skopar Screw Mount, 35/2.5 P Color Skopar, 35/1.4 Nokton Voigtlander has the f/1.2 Nokton, an f/1.4 Nokton, and the f/2.5 Color Skopar. Good comparison. Voigtlander NOKTON 35mm F1.2 Aspherical 一二三代 (已收二代) Color-skopar 35mm f2.5 l39 p一二代 (已收p) Ultron 35mm f2 (已收) Ultron 35mm f1.7 l39 m (已收m) NOKTON Classic 35mm f1.4 一代二代 (已收一代sc二代mc) Zeiss C Biogon T* 35mm f2.8 (已收) Biogon T* 35mm f2 (已收) Distagon T* 35mm f1.4. The Vogtlende Sony E-mount lenses “NOKTON 35mm F1.2 Aspherical SE”, “40mm F1.2 Aspherical SE” and “NOKTON 50mm F1.2 Aspherical SE” will be available for reservation on April 17. Wideangle prime lens | Leica M | BA214P. I also have a small vintage 35mm Leica lens if you want to compare the Leica 35mm photos vs the Voigtlander 35mm images. All possibilities and freedom! Voigtlander 28mm F2 Ultron. I own quite of few LTM Voigtlander lenses and have sold a few of the M-mount lenses in favor of a Zeiss ZM system that perfectly matches my needs. Another one could have been to focus the lenses on exactly the same areas (at least two images show different focusing points for the same subject … or one of the two lenses has its internal lenses slightly out of alignment, which is also possible). January 2019 - Voigtlander introduces two compact modern aspherical retro styled Vintage Leica M lenses the 35mm f/2 Ultron and 21mm f/3.5 Color-Skopar Voigtlander's “Vintage Line” series for Leica M mount rangefinder cameras combines a classic retro exterior design with … So many choices. Il Voigtlander VM 35mm f/2.5 Color Skopar II è un obiettivo grandangolare per formato FF e APS-C. La messa a fuoco avviene tramite Manual Focus, non è presente stabilizzazione d'immagine.Il prezzo medio, al momento dell'inserimento della scheda, è sui 470 €; It would be interesting to see that (shots taken with the camera on a tripod this time so that we judge the qualities/flaws of the lenses and not your ability to hold a camera at low shutter speeds. The “classic” designation relates to the heritage of this lens as its symmetrical optical design is very similar to the older M-mount 35mm 1.4. Feel free to visit my website to know more about it : I was so happy with it.eval(ez_write_tag([[468,60],'35mmc_com-box-3','ezslot_3',179,'0','0'])); But time went on and as many of you may know, once you start thinking “Leica”, it is very hard to resist to the temptation of getting more gear… German gear… So I ended up selling that Nokton to get myself a nice Leica Summicron 35mm v4 (aka the King of Bokeh). While I haven’t had a chance to push it the way I do my Zeiss Biogon, I have to say I really dig it. I currently shoot with M240-P with Nokton 1.2v2 – it is great but way too big. For film Leica M's and Leica M9/ME/M240, use the Metal 35mm Viewfinder - Black or Chrome $209 . Though it is a highly competent lens (obviously) 35mm is not a focal length I use a great deal preferring a longer lens for most of my purposes. Look at the nightscape shot this is the only one here shot at f/1.4 with the Nokton. Build quality wise, the Leica Summicron and Voigtlander Nokton are very similar. I’m also stunned by the Voigt 50 APO for Sony. If you don't like the adverts you can subscibe here and they will disapear. But this had to be expected with one more stop. A great setup to shoot film! I think your review might be misleading to a lot of readers, and I hope you can maybe do a more systematic comparison. Voigtländer 15mm f/4.5 M II ASPH. I bought used an eight element 35mm Summichron for my M3 in 1987. But what does this all mean in real life? I would like to ask you for one important thing related with the Nokton – the focus shift. Thank you for writing such a thoughtful, articles like this are why I continually come back to 35mmc. So what i want to say is thats its not like you look the pictures 5seconds and saying what lens is ”better”. Small bodied lenses like the two I mentioned often seem too small for me to handle comfortably. (UK) / (US). I would say that even most people tend to prefer photos on the right side does not give 100% feedback. But I consider both lenses to be “classical” as no aspherical lens has been used and only a limited number of lens elements. Voigtlander 35mm F1.4 Nokton. Hi Grady, I am just saying these things, which you already know, for your readers who might be less experienced than you are. 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